Most of these diagrams are flow diagrams not exactly flow charts. However meaning is here, have a look at flowchart example here in the Creately diagram community.
I’d like to argue in favor of Art as a whole being a subjective matter.
I'll be using Science as an example of objectivity. I’ll use Art as the subjective example.
Science is the uncovering of universal truths. Art is the perception of creativity. Which can be subject to conventions and multiple (or little) cultural changes in perception throughout its long (or short) history.
Objectivity is the search of facts that ignore both personal opinions and feelings (Art’s building blocks).
Art employs aesthetic facts, but these aesthetic facts are not the whole and sole purpose of art, they have the possibility of being employed in highly, solely, lowly and no degrees.
Art is ultimately subjective because of this. Art incorporates variety, fallacies, challenging un-commonalities, elements that seek to achieve both emotions and lack of emotions, conventions and various objectively measurable means and truths (aesthetic facts). But ultimately art doesn't seek truth and only truth (especially on more abstract ends).
Objectivity doesn't account for personal feelings while Subjectivity does. Objectivity wants the facts. Subjectivity wants the takes. “Best Consensus” is therefore a subjective convention by definition. The consensus is based on the feelings/takes of a majority or of selected groups of people. Which is always possibly subject to change.
A fact is a truth. Objectivity seeks truth ignoring personal opinions and feelings. [Quoted Distinction (a) & Noted Differences (b, c)] -a “1. I hate Guernica and 2. Guernica is a mediocre painting. “ -b “1. is a personal opinion, which one is entitled to; 2. is a statement of "fact" going against the best consensus.” -c “2. is actually quite difficult. to prove 2. one would have to produce an argument to defeat 81 years of consensus; not impossible, but unlikely.” (Quote End) Evaluating the noted differences, differences #2 from b and c are flawed. A statement of fact would objectively not care about the personal feelings or takes of people. This is rather a personal truth that can be extrapolated from Distinction #1 (another personal truth). The best consensus is by definition an un-static, collective and subjective convention that accounts for personal takes.
Going to Picasso’s “Guernica” evaluation, the criteria of (Quoted)“formal qualities, the new style it represents (Cubism & Surrealism), as well as the painting's reception”(Quoted End) is also subject to perception and personal takes by other people. They may disagree or agree as to what shall be relevant and classified as a “formal quality” (e.g. materials used, place of origin, etc) meaning this would also be a subjective convention of guidelines by to which art is to be assigned a value.
This is what separates the art of music from the science of mathematics. Art has the ability of multiple goals or to have none at all. From senseless admiration, to questioning, to emotional voids and so on and so forth. All of which are subject to personal interpretations as to what it is trying to achieve, what it has accomplished and to what degree. Overall consensus of the aforementioned being clearer for some works than others at large scales of people (I.E Michelangelo’s “David” vs Duchamp’s “Fountain”)
Science(s) is/are ultimately objective. Science seeks truth and only truth. The means by which Science does this are subjective until proven objective. At which point they are continuously trialed through (again) subjective means until these are proven objective. The ultimate goal of science is a universal truth (unlike art).
Art is capable of seeking or achieving personal truths, which can collectively turn to a consensus. These are not, and will never be, universal truths. Art's value can be twisted by every single individual. From the artist to the spectator to the educated critics to the now elder educated critics.
“Best consensus” is therefore an ideal guideline of art. It is not useless nor is it futile, but art is a personal matter of perception and therefore subjective.
thanks for this one
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ReplyDeleteWe should make a wiki for the flowcharts and essentials if the author doesn't show up.
since that link is dead:
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ReplyDeletethank you previous anon for that link, have been disappointed for ages.
ReplyDeleteThe concept is very legit, but I see something different here because of the flowchart symbols
ReplyDeleteMost of these diagrams are flow diagrams not exactly flow charts. However meaning is here, have a look at flowchart example here in the Creately diagram community.
ReplyDeleteI’d like to argue in favor of Art as a whole being a subjective matter.
ReplyDeleteI'll be using Science as an example of objectivity.
I’ll use Art as the subjective example.
Science is the uncovering of universal truths.
Art is the perception of creativity. Which can be subject to conventions and multiple (or little) cultural changes in perception throughout its long (or short) history.
Objectivity is the search of facts that ignore both personal opinions and feelings (Art’s building blocks).
Art employs aesthetic facts, but these aesthetic facts are not the whole and sole purpose of art, they have the possibility of being employed in highly, solely, lowly and no degrees.
Art is ultimately subjective because of this. Art incorporates variety, fallacies, challenging un-commonalities, elements that seek to achieve both emotions and lack of emotions, conventions and various objectively measurable means and truths (aesthetic facts). But ultimately art doesn't seek truth and only truth (especially on more abstract ends).
Objectivity doesn't account for personal feelings while Subjectivity does.
Objectivity wants the facts.
Subjectivity wants the takes.
“Best Consensus” is therefore a subjective convention by definition. The consensus is based on the feelings/takes of a majority or of selected groups of people. Which is always possibly subject to change.
A fact is a truth. Objectivity seeks truth ignoring personal opinions and feelings.
[Quoted Distinction (a) & Noted Differences (b, c)]
-a “1. I hate Guernica and 2. Guernica is a mediocre painting. “
-b “1. is a personal opinion, which one is entitled to; 2. is a statement of "fact" going against the best consensus.”
-c “2. is actually quite difficult. to prove 2. one would have to produce an argument to defeat 81 years of consensus; not impossible, but unlikely.”
(Quote End)
Evaluating the noted differences, differences #2 from b and c are flawed.
A statement of fact would objectively not care about the personal feelings or takes of people. This is rather a personal truth that can be extrapolated from Distinction #1 (another personal truth).
The best consensus is by definition an un-static, collective and subjective convention that accounts for personal takes.
Going to Picasso’s “Guernica” evaluation, the criteria of (Quoted)“formal qualities, the new style it represents (Cubism & Surrealism), as well as the painting's reception”(Quoted End) is also subject to perception and personal takes by other people. They may disagree or agree as to what shall be relevant and classified as a “formal quality” (e.g. materials used, place of origin, etc) meaning this would also be a subjective convention of guidelines by to which art is to be assigned a value.
This is what separates the art of music from the science of mathematics. Art has the ability of multiple goals or to have none at all. From senseless admiration, to questioning, to emotional voids and so on and so forth. All of which are subject to personal interpretations as to what it is trying to achieve, what it has accomplished and to what degree.
Overall consensus of the aforementioned being clearer for some works than others at large scales of people (I.E Michelangelo’s “David” vs Duchamp’s “Fountain”)
Science(s) is/are ultimately objective. Science seeks truth and only truth. The means by which Science does this are subjective until proven objective. At which point they are continuously trialed through (again) subjective means until these are proven objective. The ultimate goal of science is a universal truth (unlike art).
Art is capable of seeking or achieving personal truths, which can collectively turn to a consensus. These are not, and will never be, universal truths.
Art's value can be twisted by every single individual. From the artist to the spectator to the educated critics to the now elder educated critics.
“Best consensus” is therefore an ideal guideline of art. It is not useless nor is it futile, but art is a personal matter of perception and therefore subjective.